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From:Johnny Withers Date:March 18 2009 1:29pm
Subject:Re: Re: Separate customer databases vs all in one
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Everytime we make a schema change in development we save an SQL script into
a directory named in MMDDYYYY format. The scripts are named in
MMDDYYYY_NNN_DESCRIPTION.SQL format, where NNN is the sequence number. This
allows us to string the files together in the proper order to apply when an
update goes out. We simply look at the last update date, combine all the
scripts (either using cmd line utilties or an app we wrote to do it) and
apply this combined script to all the databases. The application to all
databases is currently handled by hand each time since we don't more than
once a week and there are not a lot of databases (15 to 20 right now).

I can see us needing an automated way to apply these scripts in the future
and it'll probably involve a custom application that makes use of a settings
file that has the connection string for each database. It'd simply loop
these connections and apply the scripts over a date range.

We don't have a need for being able to query multiple databases at a time.
Since some of these databases reside on different servers, I don't even
think we could do that -- unless we started using an engine that supports

On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 7:01 AM, Stephen Sunderlin <vze80bby@stripped>wrote:

> How do do you synchronize alter schema across the databases and what method
> do you use for internal reporting aggregate across the databases?
> Mar 18, 2009 06:47:52 AM, johnny@stripped wrote:
> I have an application and database doing this right now. We run both
> ways, a single db per customer and a single customer per db. Smaller
> customers are in a shared enviroment and larger customers have their
> own db, sometimes they even have their own server. We use a company_id
> field in each table to identify the data.
>  On 3/17/09, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful@stripped> wrote:
> > Are these databases identical or merely similar? If they are structurally
> > identical, I'd go for one database per customer. Then you have isolation,
> > easy structure updates and above all, consistent front-end code, in
> > whatever language that occurs. Just obtain the customer ID and then use
> the
> > appropriate database. Everything else can remain the same.
> >
> > The only fly in the ointment concerns whether you'd ever have the
> customer
> > need to cross databases. I would imagine that sort of thing is for
> internal
> > use, not the customers. In that case, the performance hit if any won't
> > impact upon the customer, just you.
> >
> > hth,
> > Arthur
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 8:21 PM, Daevid Vincent <daevid@stripped>
> wrote:
> >
> >> I'm writing a report tool wherein we have many customers who subscribe
> >> to this SaaS. There are millions of rows of data per customer. All
> >> customers are islands from each other (of course).
> >>
> >> Are there any major issues or benefits between storing each customer in
> >> their own database (with their own tables), or all lumped into a single
> >> database?
> >>
> >> At first thought, it seems that by separating them, queries should be
> >> faster no (as there is less data to sift though per customer)? It of
> >> course makes upgrading table schema a wee bit more cumbersome, but a
> >> simple loop and script can handle that easily enough. And since you can
> >> query across databases, we can still make internal aggregate reports for
> >> our own usage.
> >>
> >> For example: SELECT * FROM JOIN; or
> >> we can use UNIONS etc. too.
> >>
> >> Consolidating them into one would seem to bloat the tables and slow
> >> things down (or is the fact that mySQL uses B-Trees invalidate that
> >> theory)? It also makes us have to have a customer_id entry in every
> >> table basically (or some FK to distinguish who's data is who's). It also
> >> feels like it could leak data if a malformed query were to get through,
> >> although I'm not terribly worried about this as we do some heavy UAT
> >> before pushing from DEV to TEST to PROD.
> >>
> >> Performance is a major factor concern here given our huge data sets
> >> involved. Does joining across databases impose any speed/performance
> >> hits vs. just joining across tables within a single database?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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Re: Re: Separate customer databases vs all in oneJohnny Withers18 Mar
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