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From:Ken Jacobs Date:August 2 2007 6:04am
Subject:Re: Best way to backup three live databases
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Daevid, another idea is to consider InnoDB Hot Backup.   While it is not 
free (perhaps NOT the most important point!), it does have the ability to do 
online ("hot" backups) of InnoDB tables while they are being used and 
updated.   It also backs up MyISAM tables, with a minimal period of time 
when they cannot be accessed.  The backups are consistent ... that is, they 
relate to a particular point in time.

Since the backup created of one database is not going to be from the same 
point in time as others, you can address this on recovery ... restore all 
three databases from the closest matching backups, and roll forward to the 
present (or to a point in time you like after the end of the backup).

From your description of your needs, InnoDB seems capable of addressing your 
requirement ... allowing you to have consistent backups while not locking 
out the updates during the backup.

See the InnoDB website for more details:



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Baron Schwartz" <baron@stripped>
To: "Daevid Vincent" <daevid@stripped>
Cc: "'MySQL General'" <mysql@stripped>
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: Best way to backup three live databases

> <div class="moz-text-flowed" style="font-family: -moz-fixed">Hi,
> The best two suggestions I can give you are LVM snapshots for binary 
> backups, or using replication so you can back up the slave.  Since you 
> have InnoDB tables, my personal opinion is the safest way to get a good 
> LVM snapshot is to shut down the server and take the snapshot; you can 
> then bring it back up while the backup proceeds.  However, see Peter 
> Zaitsev's article on LVM backups for other opinions on this 
> (
> Either way has downsides, it's true.  The downside of using a slave is you 
> have to do table checksums if you really want to be sure the slave has the 
> same data as the master.
> Baron
> Daevid Vincent wrote:
>> We've got a production system with three databases.  The three databases
>> together represent one logical set of data.  The databases contain a
>> mixture of MyISAM and InnoDB tables.
>> What is the best way to backup the entire system (i.e. all three
>> databases) to ensure that I get a coherent snapshot of the data?  Since
>> this is a production system, it's not desirable to block access or
>> shutdown the MySQL service while the backup runs.  Am I stuck with using
>> mysqldump's --lock-all-tables option?
>> The issue with that is, we have many services that will be spinning
>> waiting to write to the DB as the tables will be locked. On large sets,
>> (MB and GB) this can take a while, and the issues then compound. If we
>> lock a single table, then we have integrity issues as some tables will
>> have data and others will be locked.
>> AFAIK, Oracle, SQL Server and any other production quality RDBMS does
>> this type of thing on live production servers without shutting down the
>> database or the services.
>> Thx.
> </div> 

Best way to backup three live databasesDaevid Vincent31 Jul
  • Re: Best way to backup three live databasesBaron Schwartz31 Jul
    • Re: Best way to backup three live databasesKen Jacobs2 Aug