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From:Dennis Gilmore Date:December 3 2009 7:06pm
Subject:Re: why not use a repo?
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On Wednesday 02 December 2009 07:21:08 pm Alfredo Kojima wrote:
> On Dec 2, 2009, at 6:45 PM, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
> > On Wednesday 02 December 2009 01:49:01 pm Carl Karsten wrote:
> >> On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Dennis Gilmore <dennis@stripped>
> >>
> >> wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday 01 December 2009 05:24:00 pm Carl Karsten wrote:
> >>>>> Please get your copy from our Download
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> That does not give you away to download the beta.
> >>>>
> >>>> If you don't pay attention, you get
> >>>>
> >>>> mysql-workbench-oss-5.1.18a-1ubu904-amd64
> >>>>
> >>>> "Error: A later version is already installed"
> >>>>
> >>>> Will someone explain again why this isn't in a repo?  downloading
> >>>> binaries from an FTP mirror is so 1900's.  Not being able to
> >>>> download
> >>>> is so home grown.  can we blame Oracle?
> >>>
> >>> I am working to get mysql-workbench into fedora.  so you can just
> >>> do a
> >>> "yum install mysql-workbench" its currently waiting on a review for
> >>> inclusion.
> >>
> >> I am guessing the review includes looking at the license to make sure
> >> it is distributable?  If so, let me know how that goes.  If it is
> >> allowable, I'll put it in my PPA and submit it to Ubuntu for the
> >> Universe repo.
> >
> > thats part of it.  one thing that will make it harder is the
> > bundling of other
> > projects in the source tree. its a bad practice that utimately leads
> > to
> > unintended consequences.  Can someone explain to me why the tarball
> > has copies
> > of cppconn
> This is not included in most distributions, including Ubuntu.
> Specially in the version we need.
This is a bad reason to included it If its not in fedora then i need to add it 
and now i need to spend extra time yanking out all the external bits. and 
patching things to work with the system libraries.  bundling libraries violate 
the packaging guidelines. 

> >  ctemplate
> Ditto. When we started using it, no distro was shipping it.
Fedora has always shipped the needed version long before you decided to add it 
> >  curl libsigc++
> These are not built in Linux, it's for the Windows build.
> >  python
> ?? This is not included in any form.
there is a python directory in the ext dir in the tarball i downloaded i did 
not look to check what was in it  but it is there 
> > scintilla
> There are modifications to this, esp. for the Mac port, for which we
> had to code support for Cocoa ourselves.
You are better to supply patches and be working with upstream to get them 
included upstream. 

> > silvercity  yassl
> Does any distro ship these?
A distro not shipping something is really not a valid reason to include it.  I 
need to yank it all out and patch everything to work with system versions.

> If the package is to be included in some distribution, they're free to
> patch the configure file and
> simply use whatever they ship, of course. If it is really the case
> that they ship everything that's needed.

If we dont ship it it needs to be included.  Distros not shipping it really is 
not a good reason to include it. 
of them fedora has ctemplate. 
> mysqldev@gui-srva-vm-ubu910i386:~$ apt-cache search yassl
> mysqldev@gui-srva-vm-ubu910i386:~$ apt-cache search silvercity
> mysqldev@gui-srva-vm-ubu910i386:~$ apt-cache search ctemplate
> > Dennis
> --
> Alfredo Kojima, Senior Software Developer
> MySQL Developer Tools
> Database Group, Sun Microsystems

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why not use a repo?Carl Karsten2 Dec
  • Re: why not use a repo?Mike Lischke2 Dec
    • Re: why not use a repo?Sebastian Mendel2 Dec
      • Re: why not use a repo?Mike Lischke2 Dec
  • Re: why not use a repo?Dennis Gilmore2 Dec
    • Re: why not use a repo?Carl Karsten2 Dec
      • Re: why not use a repo?Dennis Gilmore2 Dec
        • Re: why not use a repo?Alfredo Kojima3 Dec
          • Re: why not use a repo?Dennis Gilmore3 Dec
  • Re: why not use a repo?Alfredo Kojima3 Dec