On Wednesday 02 December 2009 07:21:08 pm Alfredo Kojima wrote:
> On Dec 2, 2009, at 6:45 PM, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
> > On Wednesday 02 December 2009 01:49:01 pm Carl Karsten wrote:
> >> On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Dennis Gilmore <dennis@stripped>
> >>
> >> wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday 01 December 2009 05:24:00 pm Carl Karsten wrote:
> >>>>> Please get your copy from our Download
> >>>>> http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/workbench/
> >>>>
> >>>> That does not give you away to download the beta.
> >>>>
> >>>> If you don't pay attention, you get
> >>>>
> >>>> mysql-workbench-oss-5.1.18a-1ubu904-amd64
> >>>>
> >>>> "Error: A later version is already installed"
> >>>>
> >>>> Will someone explain again why this isn't in a repo? downloading
> >>>> binaries from an FTP mirror is so 1900's. Not being able to
> >>>> download
> >>>> is so home grown. can we blame Oracle?
> >>>
> >>> I am working to get mysql-workbench into fedora. so you can just
> >>> do a
> >>> "yum install mysql-workbench" its currently waiting on a review for
> >>> inclusion.
> >>
> >> I am guessing the review includes looking at the license to make sure
> >> it is distributable? If so, let me know how that goes. If it is
> >> allowable, I'll put it in my PPA and submit it to Ubuntu for the
> >> Universe repo.
> >
> > thats part of it. one thing that will make it harder is the
> > bundling of other
> > projects in the source tree. its a bad practice that utimately leads
> > to
> > unintended consequences. Can someone explain to me why the tarball
> > has copies
> > of cppconn
>
> This is not included in most distributions, including Ubuntu.
> Specially in the version we need.
This is a bad reason to included it If its not in fedora then i need to add it
and now i need to spend extra time yanking out all the external bits. and
patching things to work with the system libraries. bundling libraries violate
the packaging guidelines.
>
> > ctemplate
>
> Ditto. When we started using it, no distro was shipping it.
Fedora has always shipped the needed version long before you decided to add it
>
> > curl libsigc++
>
> These are not built in Linux, it's for the Windows build.
>
> > python
>
> ?? This is not included in any form.
there is a python directory in the ext dir in the tarball i downloaded i did
not look to check what was in it but it is there
>
> > scintilla
>
> There are modifications to this, esp. for the Mac port, for which we
> had to code support for Cocoa ourselves.
You are better to supply patches and be working with upstream to get them
included upstream.
>
> > silvercity yassl
>
> Does any distro ship these?
A distro not shipping something is really not a valid reason to include it. I
need to yank it all out and patch everything to work with system versions.
>
> If the package is to be included in some distribution, they're free to
> patch the configure file and
> simply use whatever they ship, of course. If it is really the case
> that they ship everything that's needed.
If we dont ship it it needs to be included. Distros not shipping it really is
not a good reason to include it.
of them fedora has ctemplate.
>
> mysqldev@gui-srva-vm-ubu910i386:~$ apt-cache search yassl
> mysqldev@gui-srva-vm-ubu910i386:~$ apt-cache search silvercity
> mysqldev@gui-srva-vm-ubu910i386:~$ apt-cache search ctemplate
>
> > Dennis
>
> --
> Alfredo Kojima, Senior Software Developer
> MySQL Developer Tools
> Database Group, Sun Microsystems
>
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