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From:M  IN BLR SISL Srivathsan Date:July 8 2009 3:30am
Subject:RE: Eventum Groups
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Hi all,

I just started the "Step #0" (Step ZERO) of reading the existing code pertaining to
Eventum User Groups.  The following are my understanding / observations / recommendations:

1. In order to provide for multiple Group membership for Users, there needs to be a new
table created, like "user_group_association".  This table could have 3 cols - 'id',
'usr_id' and 'grp_id'

2. Apart from '' which needs to be accordingly revamped, there are 3
functions in 'class.user.php' that are impacted:
    - getGroupID($usr_id)
    - setGroupID($usr_id)
    - getActiveAssocList(..., $exclude_grouped, $grp_id)

3. We could very well retain the above 3 methods 'as is' if we go in for "Primary Group"
and "Secondary Group" concept.  Whatever that is there in the 'user' table would be the
Primary Group of the User.  All additional groups would be Secondary Groups and will be
stored in the 'user_group_association' table.

4. By this, I believe that we could restrict all the "additional" modifications within
'' itself.  Also, the existing code that depends on the 3 methods mentioned
in point #2 need not be touched.

5. From my experience, multiple group membership based logic is mainly required in the
backend engines we code and attach to Eventum.  Hence we could have the feature without
breaking the existing functionalities

6. Ofcourse, "Manage Groups" page and related functionalities should change to accommodate
multiple Group membership.

I am sure that there would be 'gotchas' in my suggestion above.  Hence I humbly solicit
Expert Review Comments on the above points.  Even totally different alternatives are most

I fondly hope that somewhere down the time-line, Eventum incorporates this feature.

Thanks and rgds,

-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan Alsdorf [mailto:bryan@stripped]
Sent: Mon, 22-Jun-2009 11:51
To: Srivathsan, M IN BLR SISL
Cc: Michael Diamond; Marc Rantanen; eventum-users@stripped
Subject: Re: Eventum Groups


Srivathsan, M IN BLR SISL wrote:
> Hi,
> Sadly for me, Eventum Group funda has been designed to be exclusive.  If only this
> was not the case, i.e., if an Eventum User could be a member of more than 1 (Eventum)
> group, it would be have made many of my solutions easier.

Unfortunately when I implemented groups I was doing it in a hurry to reach a certain goal
and didn't anticipate the need for multiple groups. It is something I would like to see
fixed, but I don't know when I will get around to it.

I welcome any patches that change this, and would be happy to be involved in the design

Best Regards,

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Eventum GroupsMarc Rantanen20 Jun
  • Re: Eventum GroupsMichael Diamond20 Jun
    • RE: Eventum GroupsM  IN BLR SISL Srivathsan21 Jun
      • Re: Eventum GroupsBryan Alsdorf22 Jun
        • RE: Eventum GroupsM  IN BLR SISL Srivathsan8 Jul
          • Re: Eventum GroupsMichael Diamond8 Jul
            • RE: Eventum GroupsDavid Anderson8 Jul
              • RE: Eventum GroupsM  IN BLR SISL Srivathsan8 Jul
            • RE: Eventum GroupsM  IN BLR SISL Srivathsan8 Jul
              • Re: Eventum GroupsBryan Alsdorf8 Jul