Hi Colin,
> There are obviously more planned features, besides your own profiling
> patch. I believe the patch queue log is public, even
Huh? How can that even be true given the recent announcement of
"nothing new in 5.0" and discussion of the failure of the split? My
understanding (from Kaj's posts) is that there will be nothing new at
all in 5.0-community, meaning the only difference henceforth will be
release frequency.
> Its still GPLv2, and its not closed source. So tarballs are available
> only to Enterprise customers, via enterprise.mysql.com
And to anyone via mirror.provenscaling.com.
> Since distributions don't normally *ship* every month, how does this
> make it worse for our user base?
Mainly because there is now a highly artificial delay in getting bug
fixes out to normal users. Why should a distro maintainer put up with
that artificial delay?
> Distributions typically ship once every 6-9 months, with the exception
> of Gentoo and FreeBSD who have a different sort of packaging system that
> handles "ports"
>
> So, frankly, every bit of software you get on your distribution is
> mostly *outdated*. Providing one source release once every 3 months (90
> days) ensures that distributions are actually getting the freshest copy
> of MySQL Community, and during their "support cycle" can release another
> update in another 3 months, even
This all assumes that MySQL is stable. Note that 5.0 has proven to be
not so stable. Anyone on 5.0 has been upgrading quite often to fix
stupid bugs, unless they're on 5.0.27 (which has been the most stable
release in recent history).
>> Given the above, this actually doesn't make much sense, since we are
>> using MySQL's own tarballs on DorsalSource (and mirror.ps), there is no
>> need to rename them.
>
> Yes, there is. I believe you cannot call it MySQL Enterprise, because
> that in itself is trademarked
No, the source releases do not have enterprise in the name, that gets
introduced in the build process and only appears on the resulting
binaries. So by distributing the source releases (called e.g.
mysql-5.0.48.tar.gz) it is not possible to be encroaching on the
enterprise trademark.
The DorsalSource builds also take care to not use "enterprise" in the
name, they are merely MySQL builds with even version numbers. You'll
notice that the only place "enterprise" even appears is to name the
"branch" from which the sources come, which I believe should be fair game.
> This is meant to *help* distributions (though I can see this being
> negative towards Gentoo or FreeBSD whom have no "release" concept -
> everything is latest)
Yeah, I don't see it.
Regards,
Jeremy
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