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From:Paul DuBois Date:November 29 2001 1:29am
Subject:RE: Please redo this horrible web page
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At 3:29 PM -0600 11/28/01, john wrote:
>Erik,
>
>    Thanks for your input. I had no idea of what a troll was. I have seen the
>term flung about before, but I had no idea I was being a troll. So, a person
>who just sends an email to a list that has a valid complaint is not a troll,
>but if they send it with an attitude, because they are frustrated at the
>lack of adequit documentation accompanying the program, that's what makes
>them trolls. I see.

It's "troll" as in "trolling for controversy", that is, posting an
inflammatory comment with no intent other than to cause trouble.
I wouldn't say that your posting qualified, but on the other hand,
posting with an attitude is rarely, if ever, helpful, and less so
are attempts to justify the attitude.

What's this about "documentation accompanying the program"?  This thread
is about a mailing list archive, not some program manual.


>
>I read the Manual all the time. The misspellings, mismatched ' & "'s and
>overwhelming use of the _ make the Manual hard to follow sometimes. Is that
>intended to be an underscore or a space, I ask again and again and again?

I'm not sure why _ would be mistaken for a space, but as for the other
items, you're certainly welcome to send a message to docs@stripped
pointing out the other problems.

Or is your intent simply to complain?  If so, then you're trolling, 
particularly
because (as with your comments about Mac OS X recently) you're alleging
a bunch of problems without providing any specific examples and without
backing up your claims.  There's no way anyone can actually reply to
the shortcomings you mention, because there's no specific content in
your message.


>
>john
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Erik Price [mailto:pricee@stripped]
>Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 2:16 PM
>To: john
>Cc: MySQL Lists
>Subject: Re: Please redo this horrible web page
>
>
>
>On Wednesday, November 28, 2001, at 02:44  PM, john wrote:
>
>>  pages every day. Things on the list are no way near how easy they can
>>  be. I
>>  cannot fathom why this is not a newsgroup, and why every person/eu has
>>  to be
>>  flooded with so much email that has nothing to do with them or their
>>  queries. Mailing lists just seem stupid to me. Someone please help me to
>>  understand why we are being subjected to so much email, when this could
>>  just
>>  be a posting, and we review the postings.
>
>You are not being subjected to so much email.  You chose to subscribe to
>this list knowing full well what that would mean and I'm sure you know
>how to unsubscribe.  There's a digest if you can't handle it, or filter
>your email to an appropriate box.  I delete threads whose subject lines
>don't interest me, it's really not that hard.
>
>And what is this "I won't read any email from those who do not have
>'mysql.com' in their email addresses"?  That seems mighty entitled.  If
>you want customer support, I think MySQL AB will be happy to provide it,
>go to https://order.mysql.com/ .  Please note that, although they have
>provided the documentation, mailing list, archives, and the software
>itself for FREE, this is something that you can pay for.
>
>You know, your suggestions are actually helpful, but the tone with which
>you deliver them invalidates you as a constructive critic.  I think they
>call that sort of person a troll.
>
>Erik
>
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