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| From: | Britt Johnston | Date: | July 14 2001 9:10am |
| Subject: | RE: mysql.org | ||
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Well, what a mess. It is regretable that this legal issue needs to be aired so publically that was certainly not my preference. I also will not get into a flame war, it is not in the best interest of mysql. I appreciate all the email I've received with advice and/or support - thanks. It is important that everyone realize that there is a legal agreement that both Monty and David personally signed that provides NuSphere broad rights around the use of the MySQL name. That agreement also allows NuSphere to release MySQL under the GPL license forever and print and distribute the manual. We paid significant money to Monty and David in exchange for that agreement which was central to forming NuSphere. This is public record. Please consider these facts when you try to understand NuSphere's rights and motivations - we actually worked hard to get the details in writing before we even started the company and we paid real money. It is under this agreement that we believe we have a clear right to use mysql.org. Now it appears there is a need by MySQL AB to characterize that agreement as no longer in effect - I hope you can respect the fact that NuSphere believes it is fully in effect and we wish to continue to abide by it. This is the central issue and public debate will not resolve it. As far as mysql.org goes, what NuSphere would like to see is a non-profit organization running that site - we have been consistent in this desire for over a year, but it has been opposed by Monty and David. I discussed this with Monty as recently as a few weeks ago in June and July and as always he was not interested - I appreciate he is entitled to that opinion as I am entitled to believe that it is time to take this step in the MySQL community. I invite all those who are skeptical to join mysql.org and be part of its formation. [BTW, the first community action was to get rid of the registration requirement at the site - it is no longer required for downloading files rather it is a membership registration only now.] As far as NuSphere's contribution to MySQL, it is disappointing to see our efforts discounted so quickly. At a minimum there are specific bug fixes, features, and language statements focused around transaction support in the server that are in MySQL due to NuSphere's efforts in cooperation with Monty. The Gemini table handler itself is already part of MySQL and is licensed under the GPL - go find ha_gemini.cc and you will see it we checked it in long ago in V4 and again in 3.23 when V4 was late. The Gemini component itself will be released via mysql.org as GPL as previously announced - note that Gemini itself is not a derivative of MySQL in any way - it's roots date back to long before MySQL existed. Finally independent of the rest of this. I have the highest respect for Monty and what he has done creating MySQL. I'm certain we can move beyond this and make MySQL an even stronger open source project and I encourage everyone move to a constructive dialog. Britt -- D. Britton Johnston 603-578-6707 Nashua Chief Technology Officer 781-280-4954 Bedford NuSphere Corporation 781-280-4600 Main 14 Oak Park 781-280-4646 Fax Bedford, MA 01730 www.nusphere.com
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