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From:Darrell Shifflett Date:July 14 1999 9:34pm
Subject:Re: surviving the Slashdot effect
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On Wed, 14 Jul 1999, Sasha Pachev wrote:

> Derick H Siddoway wrote:
> > 
> > {description of oracle's strengths snipped}
> > 
> > >>Not In My Experience.
> > 
> > >I will respectfully submit that you have never worked on a truly well-tuned
> > >Oracle implementation.
> > >
> > >In my experience, 90% of Oracle application implementations are seriously
> > >broken.
> > 
> > I'll buy that.  Since I haven't been involved in the implementation of
> > any of them (I'm just a simple sysadmin), I won't even take offense.
> > 
> > >Truly expert Oracle developers are far and few
> > >between indeed.
> > 
> > But this is why I have a general problem with Oracle.  When we have issues,
> > it takes a LONG time to find anyone (at Oracle even) who can answer the
> > question.  The last time we had an Oracle consultant drop by to evaluate
> > our systems, she spent way too much time wondering why we hadn't done
> > this and that with the OS and not enough time looking at Oracle.  We couldn't
> > even get decent tuning information out of her.
> > 
> > Compare this to getting answers usually the same day from the actual
> > developers!  We should be expecting more from the companies that charge
> > us the big bucks.  How come Oracle doesn't provide Oracle Certified
> > Database Engineer classes?
> > 
> > Yes, Oracle does a lot that MySQL doesn't.  (I can't run MySQL as a
> > parallel database on Sun's HA framework, for instance.)  But I would
> > rather work with shortcomings in software and excellent support than
> > the other way 'round.
> > 
> > --
> > derick
> >
> 
> And I believe we have a shot to get MySQL to the point where it can
> replace Oracle in 95% of the cases. It would take a team of developers
> on the net to help Monty. Look at Linux - Linus wrote only about 10% of
> the code himself - the rest was written by the programmers interested in
> seeing Linux succeed. Some even got their companies to pay for it.
> Apache is another example of a successful open source project done by a
> team. MySQL is not quite there yet - Monty has written about 90% of the
> code himself - this is very impressive - how many of us could write an
> RDBMS similar to MySQL almost entirely on our own? Now if MySQL is as
> great as it is now, can you image what would happen, if Monty starts
> getting some help? I wanted to do it for a long time, but just kept
> putting it off. Finally I decided to take a leap of faith - interviewed
> for a new job, and negotiated working on MySQL development as part of
> the contract - so starting August 1st I'll be officially hacking MySQL -
> I'm excited!

Best of luck Sasha :) Maybe you might take a poll on actually how many
MySQL users are actually hacking the code to make thing work to their
needs. *hint* 

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