From: Martin Gainty Date: August 21 2012 12:41pm Subject: RE: Machine Learning List-Archive: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql/228030 Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_08fd889d-6a4f-4bf6-a6b6-d4a23752a74f_" --_08fd889d-6a4f-4bf6-a6b6-d4a23752a74f_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Forgive my flawed human intervention into the flawlessly scheduled and impe= ccably managed operational tasks performed by the 'perfect machine' I guess its time for another 'stress pill' Martin=20 > Date: Tue=2C 21 Aug 2012 04:40:49 -0500 > From: michael@stripped > To: mysql@stripped > Subject: Re: Machine Learning >=20 > I think it was the HAL-9000 in the movie 2001: A Space Odyssey >=20 >=20 > On 08/20/2012 06:25 PM=2C Martin Gainty wrote: > > When I hear 'AI' I always imagine theres a HAL 9001 behind the scenes t= hat is running the show constantly admonishing its creator to "take another= stress pill" > > > > Sounds like a fun project > > > > Keep us apprised=2C > > Martin Gainty > > ______________________________________________ > > Verzicht und Vertraulichkeitanmerkung/Note de d=E9ni et de confidential= it=E9 > > > > Diese Nachricht ist vertraulich. 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Ce message sert =E0 l'information= seulement et n'aura pas n'importe quel effet l=E9galement obligatoire. =C9= tant donn=E9 que les email peuvent facilement =EAtre sujets =E0 la manipula= tion=2C nous ne pouvons accepter aucune responsabilit=E9 pour le contenu fo= urni. > > > > > > Date: Mon=2C 20 Aug 2012 13:50:04 -0700 > > From: garotconklin@stripped > > Subject: Re: Machine Learning > > To: webmaster@stripped=3B mgainty@stripped=3B mysql@stripped= om > > > > Ya the idea is not anything new=2C but must be apparently quit difficul= t or not a priority as I have yet to find it already implemented anywhere..= . Far be it from me to not make some attempt here anyway... > > I am creating a fully automated framework from which a distributed infr= astructure can be maintained. I have been writing automation scripts/code = for some time now and the logical progression is to embark on a full concep= t of systems health auto remediation. I have numerous "monitoring" solutio= ns under my control however none that properly > > (in my opinion) implements any real learning algorithms from which to= draw even a minimalists view of automation. I like mySQL therefor began t= hinking about creating the aspects (lobes) of the "brain" as a relational d= atabase(s). So this is only one facet of what I am trying to do=2C however= leveraging a full command set of shell utilities/commands/programs seemed = to be a good starting point before I get into the "hard" stuff ! > > > > -Garot > > garotconklin@stripped > > From: "webmaster@stripped" > > To: 'Martin Gainty' =3B garotconklin@stripped= =3B mysql@stripped > > Sent: Monday=2C August 20=2C 2012 3:55 PM > > Subject: RE: Machine Learning > > =20 > > > > Hi Garot=2C > > > > =20 > > > > You'll have to elaborate some more ... I understand you may want to pro= tect > > the idea as well=2C so if you can narrow it down to some technical spec= ifics > > then it'll help. > > > > =20 > > > > What is the objective of this system=2C for instance ? > > > > =20 > > > > Thanks=2C > > > > Justin > > > > =20 > > > > From: Martin Gainty [mailto:mgainty@stripped] > > Sent: 20 August 2012 19:23 > > To: garotconklin@stripped=3B webmaster@stripped=3B mysql@stripped= l.com > > Subject: RE: Machine Learning > > > > =20 > > > > =20 > > > > From: garotconklin@stripped > > Subject: Re: Machine Learning > > To: webmaster@stripped=3B mgainty@stripped=3B mysql@stripped= om > > > > > > My initial thought was to propagate the db with everything and allow th= e > > algorithm to then begin to determin trends/patterns > > MG>which trends or patterns will you be modelling? > > > > and begin either an indexing methodology > > MG>which indexes are you considering: Unique index=2C primary index or = foreign > > index? > > > > additional table/db creation process or both to further optimize the ca= lls > > being made > > MG>optimize based on execution time or diskspace allocated=2C Eliminati= ngFTS > > or some other criteria? > > MG>https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.5/en/optimization.html > > > > and build in some internal levels of redundancy. > > MG>what about replication > > MG>http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.5/en/replication.html > > > > I am actually approaching this with some degree of biological conceptio= n in > > the multipathing within our own brains however until I have something u= p and > > running under some substantial load however I may not get a complete > > picture. > > > > Thanks=2C > > > > Garot > > > > > > Interesting > > Martin > > > > _____ > > > > From: webmaster@stripped =3B > > To: 'Garot > > Conklin' =3B 'Martin Gainty' > > =3B =3B > > Subject: RE: Machine Learning > > Sent: Mon=2C Aug 20=2C 2012 7:13:25 AM > > > > > > Hi Garot=2C > > > > This sounds an interesting idea. > > > > Are you looking to store all known commands and their options or are yo= u > > looking for a 'formula' for calling any unix command ? > > > > The reason for my question is that=2C at the end of the day=2C a unix c= ommand is > > just a program that is run in the operating system. Each program comes = with > > its own options and acceptable inputs. I don't know if there is a rule = or > > convention for structuring these commands. > > > > Are you then looking to build a > > system that 'knows' all commands and 'how > > to' call them ? > > > > Thanks=2C > > Justin > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Garot Conklin [mailto:garotconklin@stripped] > > Sent: 20 August 2012 03:39 > > To: Martin Gainty=3B mysql@stripped > > Subject: Re: Machine Learning > > > > The initial goal is to provide a working framework from which to call a= ll > > UNIX shell command combinations as the underlying storage mechanism for= a > > machine learning algorithm. I would like to build a completely self aw= are > > instantiation that will maintain itself on all levels... I postulate th= at > > the first place to start would be in determining a method for maintaini= ng > > all possible remediation combinations including the unknown to eventual= ly be > > learned from and populate new knowledge > > into the database. Thank you for > > the reply=2C > > > > Garot > > > > =20 > > > > > > > > =09 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > MySQL General Mailing List > For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql > To unsubscribe: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql >=20 = --_08fd889d-6a4f-4bf6-a6b6-d4a23752a74f_--