From: Reindl Harald Date: May 22 2012 11:46am Subject: Re: Reducing ibdata1 file size List-Archive: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql/227495 Message-Id: <4FBB7CAA.3060703@thelounge.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig0B43A78F5DE67E924FC78DD3" --------------enig0B43A78F5DE67E924FC78DD3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am 22.05.2012 13:40, schrieb Johan De Meersman: > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Reindl Harald" >> Subject: Re: Reducing ibdata1 file size >> >> well but for what price? >> the problem is the DEFAULT >> >> users with enough knowledge could easy change the default >> currently what is happening is that mostly every beginner >> is caught in the trap with single-table-space and hearing >> from "innodb_file_per_table" after is is way too late >=20 > All true, but I would argue that enterprise-suitable defaults are a goo= d thing=20 > shame so many of the other defaults aren't :-) 95% of mysqld-installations have no problem with innodb_file_per_table so DEFAULTS should not be for 5% and as said in another reply to this thread you need "innodb_file_per_table" for compression and no, most servers these days are NOT cpu-bound most are IO-bound especially in enterprise environments with shared storage (SAN) > And yes, it is problematic for beginners, but so is having beginners=20 > manage production sites, isn't it? not only for beginners very few people expecting that a datastorage is only growing and growing with no painless way to release all the wasted space if you make tests with real big data and drop them this has nothing to do with "enterprise" or "beginners" it is a surprising behavior and defaults should minimize surprises --------------enig0B43A78F5DE67E924FC78DD3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk+7fKoACgkQhmBjz394AnlNUwCfZbSJCHNZ725myy2jb9YQkQTm x24AninQ/kVyU7pNrnM2njTU32aHkvbb =rUFE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig0B43A78F5DE67E924FC78DD3--