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From:Daevid Vincent Date:April 7 2011 11:02pm
Subject:RE: Any table visualization tools with wires connecting the actual columns?
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Whoa! I never realized Toad did that. Man that is one robust program. I'm
half minded to switch away from 'the Yog'... especially for FREE! Yeah, and
it does do the sticky wires!! It only guessed some of them, but at least
it's something. It seems to be missing an "auto arrange" kind of feature so
once I make the wires, it can optimize the layout, but compared to other
other crappy options, this is way better... and did I mention it's FREE!
zOMGz.

d

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason Trebilcock [mailto:jason.trebilcock@stripped]
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 12:38 PM
> To: mysql@stripped
> Subject: Re: Any table visualization tools with wires connecting the
actual
> columns?
> 
> Toad for MySQL can do the diagramming piece...but, it looks and feels like
> you might have some of the same frustrations with it as well.  But,
another
> tool worth exploring nonetheless.
> 
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Daevid Vincent <daevid@stripped>
> wrote:
> 
> > Does anyone have any suggestions on this? I've written to SQL Maestro
> > twice and they've not replied either.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Daevid Vincent [mailto:daevid@stripped]
> > Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 4:27 PM
> > To: mysql@stripped
> > Subject: Any table visualization tools with wires connecting the
> > actual columns?
> >
> >
> >
> > I am evaluating various tools for diagram generating of existing
> > databases on some smaller databases (9 tables or so) first.
> >
> > The two I've tried so far are these:
> >
> > http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/workbench/
> > http://www.sqlmaestro.com/download/#mysql
> >
> > Both _seem_ robust and cosmetically polished, but feel to me lacking
> > the most obvious and key component of the whole purpose to make an
> EER diagram.
> >
> > I don't understand in workbench, why it creates new keys for me on
> > existing tables. Maestro doesn't do this nonsense. It isn't the tools
> > business where I have keys, it only needs to be concerned with what
> > links to what -- that I tell it to. It's further exacerbated by the
> > fact that the documentation indicates these aren't even REAL keys,
> > they are cosmetic only! WTF? Why add confusion guys?
> >
> > 1. Neither one seem to be smart enough to automatically know that
> > columns of the same name should be linked, and furthermore they should
> > be linked from all tables to the one where that column name is the PK.
> > my tables don't have true InnoDB FKs setup. And some tables are MYISAM
> > (as they're significantly faster). But I do use keys and I do have
> > sane naming conventions, so I don't understand why they can't use the
> > names, and if there are multiple tables (for some unlikely reason)
> > then just prompt me which table to use.
> >
> > Which leads me to the second and third problems...
> >
> > So I manually have started to draw the connections, but:
> >
> > 2. How can I make the wires stick to a column on the left or right
> > edge, so that I can have a direct visual link between the columns.
> > Right now, it seems they float around the edge of the table box.
> > That's sort of useless isn't it? it's like saying, "well, something in
> > this table points to something in that table".?! I would think that
> > two programs with such high version numbers would have this feature.
> > Maybe I'm missing a configuration or some way I'm supposed to do it?
> >
> > 3. Some of my databases point to tables in other databases on the same
> > server. It would be useful if I could make a wire that indicates this.
> >
> > Are there other (better) options out there for this? I really don't
> > want to do this in Visio or make a printout of the table boxes and
> > tape string to my walls to visualize all the databases, tables and
> > columns.
> >
> > -Daevid.


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