Re: PHP, Zend, & mod_perl

[Joshua Chamas]

"Graeme B. Davis" wrote:
> 
> > Yeah, I gave a look at roxen, and maybe it does connect to mysql, but it
> > does not seem to fall into the arguement of PHP vs. mod-perl. It does not
> > appear to have a speed advantage, and its ease of use stops at ms windows
> > limitations.
> 
> Well then you didn't look hard enough.  Roxen is very powerful as well as
> easy to use.  Sites like Real.com use it with exorbitant hit rates and Roxen
> doesn't flinch where Apache just croaks.  It is in the same category as PHP
> and Mod-perl because it ultimately accomplishes the same things, so that's
> why I mentioned it.  It would be interesting to have some sort of comparison
> where a common application is developed for the 3 and then benchmarked to
> see some real-world results.  Roxen itself is interpreted in real time and
> beats servers that are precompiled in many tests.

Graeme,

It seems you are a roxen advocate, hadn't heard of it until today,
but I checked it out and it does look like a pretty sweet server,
with plenty going for it.  I like how easy it was to set up,
plenty of hiccups, but about 100 times easier than putting 
together an apache + mod_perl server from the get-go.  

I also thought it was particularly cool how the web server 
was supposedly written in the same PIKE scripting language 
that is native to the server.

I benched the roxen RXML with a simple Hello World script,
with results & methodology at: 

  http://www.chamas.com/hello_world.html 

and its pretty fast, but on NT doesn't clock any faster
than the mod_perl embedded scripting environments,
so should also be slower than PHP on short scripts.

Code Type 	Web Server 	Application 		Hits/s 
---------	----------	-----------		------
Perl CGI 	apache 1.3.6 	mod_perl/registry 	51 
Embperl 	apache 1.3.6 	mod_perl/embperl 1.2b10 46 
ASP PerlScript 	apache 1.3.6 	mod_perl/asp .17 	42 
RXML 		roxen 1.3.2 	roxen/challenger 	41 

RXML is pretty low on the benchmarks ratings at the above URL because 
I didn't do it on any UNIX, and if you could submit a UNIX bench, 
that would be very cool.  NT tends to be slower for these things.

-- Joshua
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