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From:Jared Cope Date:July 18 2005 2:08pm
Subject:RE: Views in 5.0.1
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Hi,

I think you may be getting confused with the version 5 'releases' available.
It helps to understand the MySQL release cycle a little bit and then it may
become clearer.

Basically, version 5 is in alpha and beta stages at the moment which means
that the developers are very actively working on the code to fix major bugs
and include other requests etc in successive builds. I imagine that they
have no intention of going back and retro-fixing a previous alpha build of
version 5 with newly discovered bugs and flaws. They define what
alpha/beta/production etc mean to them but I couldn't find a reference for
you just now.

Officially there is no stable-production-ready release of version 5 yet.
What is available at the moment are very early builds that keen and eager
people can try out. They actually started a competition recently where you
can win MySQL prizes for helping to find and report bugs for them to fix.

I see a lot of features that I want to use in version 5, but I am not
touching it until there is an official production build available.

In terms of your question about critical fixes being made to all live
versions, I would substitute the word 'live' for 'production'. As such,
there are no such live versions available yet.

Hope this helps.

Cheers, Jared.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Clewett [mailto:ben@stripped] 
Sent: 18 July 2005 14:35
To: Joerg Bruehe
Cc: mysql@stripped
Subject: Re: Views in 5.0.1

Joerg,

I am trying to work out how stable 5.0.x is.  Related to why MySQL 
advise people to wait for the 'release' status.

You say 5.0.1 is old and obsolete.  Yet is not at release stage yet. 
This is curious.

Will 5.0.1 be changed before release?  For example:  Will large errors 
(eg, server crash) be retrospectively fixed in 5.0.1 if found in this 
release?

The way I thought of it was:  New features would demand a new release. 
Critical bug fixes would be made in *all* live versions.  Otherwise why 
have multiple versions at different stages?

But if no changes are going to occur, why is it not 'release' now?

Sorry for my confusion,

Ben Clewett



Joerg Bruehe wrote:
> Hi Ben!
> 
> Ben Clewett wrote:
> 
>> [[...]]
>>
>> Approximately when will 5.0.1 be available as stable release?
> 
> 
> 5.0.1 will never change, it is out (and obsolete by now).
> You probably refer to the 5.0 family of releases, of which 5.0.9-beta 
> was published last week.
> The 5.0 releases have to pass the "beta" and later "release candidate" 
> stages before being declared "stable". Please see my reply to this list 
> on July 14, titled "Re: MySQL 5.0.x", for a longer explanation.
> 
>>
>> If we upgraded to 5.0.1 now, is this stable for all the features in
>> 4.1.9?  So could we safely move now?
> 
> 
> Again: I hope _nobody_ will install 5.0.1 now, but rather the newest 
> available version of 5.0, which currently is 5.0.9.
> 
> 5.0.9 is labeled "beta", according to MySQL's criteria.
> This labeling is for the whole version only, not divided into "old" and 
> "new" features. As a new feature can (in general) not be added without 
> touching existing (= "old") code, such a distinction would not make sense.
> (True, the likelihood of bugs in the "old" code is lower than in the 
> "new" code, but this still does not make it as safe as current 4.1 
> versions like 4.1.12.)
> 
> Of course, MySQL AB welcomes everybody installing current 5.0 versions, 
> testing them, and reporting about the results.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Joerg
> 


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Views in 5.0.1Ben Clewett18 Jul
  • Re: Views in 5.0.1Joerg Bruehe18 Jul
    • Re: Views in 5.0.1Ben Clewett18 Jul
      • Re: Views in 5.0.1Michael Stassen18 Jul
      • Re: Views in 5.0.1Joerg Bruehe18 Jul
        • Re: Views in 5.0.1Ben Clewett19 Jul
RE: Views in 5.0.1Jared Cope18 Jul