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From:Kevin Cowley Date:February 11 2005 4:02pm
Subject:RE: Two versions of MySQL on same machine
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If your libraries/executables in your autonomus portable directories are
from the later version you shouldn't have problems - they're generally
backwards compatible.

You're also better off since you're running two 4.n.x versions. The
problems really occur if you have 4.n.x and 3.n.x installed on the same
machine and the 3.n.x are in the default path for system users. You then
have to remember to explicitly reset the path every time you want to use
any of the 4.n.x utilities as they'll try and use the 3.n.x libraries
and fail.

Kevin Cowley
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Clewett [mailto:Ben.Clewett@stripped]
> Sent: 11 February 2005 15:54
> To: Kevin Cowley
> Cc: mysql@stripped
> Subject: Re: Two versions of MySQL on same machine
> 
> Thanks for the documentation, there are some interesting things in
there.
> 
> I may however have to go further than this and have true autonomous
> MySQL.  Not sharing any /etc/my.cfg.  Running everything from some '~'
> directory:
> 
> ~/etc/mysql.conf
> ~/bin/mysql*
> ~/libexec/mysqld
> ~/logs/
> ~/var/
> ~/mysql.sock
> ~/start.sh
> ~/stop.sh
> 
> (etc)
> 
> Therefore having a truely portable service group.  This is needed so
> that I can shunt the service from machine to machine to control load
and
> handle outages.
> 
> This bit seems farly simple.  As long as I start it up very carefully
so
> as to avoid IP conflicts, read the correct mysql.conf file etc...
> 
> But my worry still remains:
> 
> I can make MySQL 'autonomous' in this way only to a point.  They limit
I
> can see is where external libs are needed.  These may conflict if
> compiled from different versions with the same file name.
> 
> I would be interested to know from any member whether this may be the
> case.
> 
> Whether there are any libs MySQL creates which will conflict from
> different versions.  Eg, does 4.0 and 4.1 use different
> libmysqlclinet.so but have the same file name.  Therefore one will
work,
> one will dump :(
> 
> Or maybe I can create the libs in my autonomous portable directory:
> 
> ~/libs/libmysqlclient.so
> 
> But many thanks for the documentation, this will be a great start to
> finding my solution.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Ben.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Kevin Cowley wrote:
> > AS I read the Mysql-multi stuff it works if you have multiple
instances
> > of the same version but not different version instances.
> > With different version instances you (may) have differences in
> > mysqld_safe, mysqld itself, and more than likely in the libraries
> > themselves so you need to use the mysqld_safe version that
corresponds
> > to the version you want.
> >
> > Kevin Cowley
> > R&D
> >
> > Tel: 0118 902 9099 (direct line)
> > Email: kevin.cowley@stripped
> > Web: http://www.alchemetrics.co.uk
> >
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Dean, Michael L USAATC [mailto:michael.dean@stripped]
> >>Sent: 11 February 2005 15:07
> >>To: 'mysql@stripped'
> >>Subject: RE: Two versions of MySQL on same machine
> >>
> >>This site may actually help out more:
> >>http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/mysqld-multi.html
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Kevin Cowley [mailto:kevin.cowley@stripped]
> >>Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 9:58 AM
> >>To: mysql@stripped
> >>Subject: RE: Two versions of MySQL on same machine
> >>
> >>You need to install each version into its own directory/path
structure
> >
> > -
> >
> >>if
> >>you have a default install of Mysql then you also need to take this
> >
> > into
> >
> >>account.
> >>
> >>For each version you need to setup a my.cnf and if you want full
> >>separation
> >>different database directories. In the my.cnf you specify different
> >>ports/sockets.
> >>
> >>For any given user you then need to ensure they pickup the correct
> >>binaries
> >>and libraries(if they're building applications).
> >>
> >>If you're auto starting Mysql at boot you either need to write a
> >
> > script
> >
> >>which provides each version separately or write a generice script
> >
> > which
> >
> >>finds and starts/stops/shutsdown each installed version.
> >>
> >>Then you'll need to work out migrations strategies, user admin
between
> >>versions, etc.
> >>
> >>Welcome to the world of system/database admin.
> >>
> >>Kevin Cowley
> >>R&D
> >>
> >>Tel: 0118 902 9099 (direct line)
> >>Email: kevin.cowley@stripped
> >>Web: http://www.alchemetrics.co.uk
> >>
> >>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: Ben Clewett [mailto:Ben.Clewett@stripped]
> >>>Sent: 11 February 2005 14:12
> >>>To: mysql@stripped
> >>>Subject: Two versions of MySQL on same machine
> >>>
> >>>Dear MySQL,
> >>>
> >>>I require two versions of MySQL on the same machine.
> >>>
> >>>[Specifically part of an HACMP array where services are portable
and
> >>>move from server to server, using AIX 5.1].
> >>>
> >>>The machine I have will have to support MySQL 4.0.11 and 4.1.8.
> >>>
> >>>I have three questions:
> >>>
> >>>1. Are there any server libs?
> >>>
> >>>I can see these on a Linux box, none of which look like server
libs,
> >>
> >>so
> >>
> >>>I might be lucky?
> >>>
> >>>librt.so.1
> >>>libz.so.1
> >>>libdl.so.2
> >>>libpthread.so.0
> >>>libcrypt.so.1
> >>>libnsl.so.1
> >>>libm.so.6
> >>>libc.so.6
> >>>
> >>>2. If there are and server libs, will the server libs conflict
> >
> > between
> >
> >>>the two versions?
> >>>
> >>>2. If they conflict, is there a way of compiling MySQL to it's
> >>
> >>specific
> >>
> >>>libs from the standard package, without static compilation?
> >>>
> >>>Any help, however honest or candied, would be extremely useful.
> >>>
> >>>Regards,
> >>>
> >>>Ben Clewett.
> >>>
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