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From:Duncan Kinder Date:October 4 1999 6:31pm
Subject:Re: [PHP3] Re: [GENERAL] Re: [PHP3] Re: PostgreSQL vs Mysql comparison
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Two problems with Postgres:

1) You have to jump through hoops to post bug reports.

2) Regression tests.  You have regression tests that purport to tell whether
Postgres works or not, but then there is language which states that a
"failure" may not actually be a "failure."  This is very difficult to figure
out - and hardly clear to say the least.


Regards,

Duncan C. Kinder
dckinder@stripped



----- Original Message -----
From: Bruce Momjian <maillist@stripped>
To: Paul DuBois <paul@stripped>
Cc: The Hermit Hacker <scrappy@stripped>; randyboy
<randyboy@stripped>; Patrick Greenwell
<patrick@stripped>; Scott Perkins <2scott@stripped>;
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Sent: Monday, October 04, 1999 8:11 AM
Subject: [PHP3] Re: [GENERAL] Re: [PHP3] Re: PostgreSQL vs Mysql comparison


> > >Second, the MySQL folks don't mention the features they _don't_ have,
> > >except now they mention they don't have transactions.
> >
> > Uh ... what?  Chapter 5 of the MySQL manual goes into the missing
> > functionality in some detail.  I have never gotten the impression that
> > they're trying to hide what isn't present.
>
> Again, it was only the comparison chart that I was referring to.  As I
> stated in a later posting, they actually recommend PostgreSQL for people
> who want transactions, and that is a very gracious gesture on MySQL's
> part.
>
> The point I was trying to make was that the chart was promoted as being
> an unbiased comparison, and I didn't think it was unbiased.  In fact,
> they call it crashme, and in fact seem to avoid tests that crash MySQL,
> while leaving in things that crash PostgreSQL.  Makes us look bad.
>
> However, this is an old recollection, and I see on the current page that
> this is no longer the case.  The current page looks much better, though
> somehow you show PostgreSQL doesn't have HAVING or support -- comments.
> However, I realize such a test is a major project, and you are not going
> to get everything right.
>
> Still, such comparisons are by nature biased.  If you have ten features,
> and we have ten features, and we only have two features in common, a
> biased comparison is going to show you has having ten features, and us
> only having two features, with no mention of the eight features we have
> that you don't have.
>
> I actually find such charts to be fairly useless in most cases when
> comparing cars, radios, etc.  I prefer a short paragraph summarizing the
> major differences in the radios.
>
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