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From:Seth Brundle Date:April 1 2003 1:20am
Subject:Re: Could we make this a web discussion forum?
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> No but those in need of help does. And those ppl who are capable of
helping
> them are usually busy. Do they keep a browser open and refresh the forum
> frequently? I'll answer that question: no.

Many forums packages have the ability to distribute the discussion as a
mailing list as well (Yahoo! Groups being one).
You dont need to lose your mailing list functionality.

> >The NNTP mirror is actually a double-edged sword - yes it takes care of
> >archiving and searching (via Google Groups), I will agree, but it
misleads
> >infrequent users into thinking posting actually does something
meaningful.
>
> Why don't you build a better one?

Why not just make is RW?

> IIRC sendmail list has both posting via NNTP and mailinglist.

Helpful for only those who know about it (few).

> >-Easily break discussion into sub-categories (especially for MySQL, where
> >SQL questions are combined with everything else, would be nice to break
that
> >out)
>
> PHP has several different lists and most questions end up on the general
> list. Usually cross-posted to other lists.

Why do I have to go to different places for different features of the same
forum?

> >SourceForge is a great idea, but a poorly designed system.
> >Obviously a package designed by an engineer, its a mess.
>
> You seem to be a brilliant coder so..perhaps you can re-design sourceforge
> and the underlaying code. Anyway, I expect an announcement from you real
> soon that you created a mail to NNTP gateway for this list.. You are going
> to build that.. right?

If DataKonsult would bless it and offer to host it, I would write a
SMTP<->NNTP gateway, sure.

I have written a good deal of USENET software, including a newsreader, so
you probably baited the wrong programmer. That's not exactly a rocket
science project for a decent perl programmer.

I would rather just have the group made read-write and write a proxy for
mailing list fans, because I know if I did this the mailing list would fall
out of favor anyway (although it would still be there for diehards).

As far as SourceForge goes - I'm not a bad coder, but I'm definitely good
enough to know when to employ the help of a human interface designer before
I spend a few months writing code. A lot of engineers, lacking a project
manager, feel that they can handle design just because they are good coders.
This is rarely true. A review of the range of quality of X-based application
interfaces, regardless of the power of the application, is indicative of
this.

Again, no reason to be combative here, all I am suggesting is making a web
or usenet home to make MySQL help more accessable. I know you want to argue
that anyone who uses MySQL should know how the mailing lists and its various
mirrors work, but in fact it is confusing  and bothersome to many people if
not you personally. I've worked with MySQL for about 7 years and have never
found it convenient.

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Could we make this a web discussion forum?Seth Brundle31 Mar
  • Re: Could we make this a web discussion forum?B. van Ouwerkerk31 Mar
    • Re: Could we make this a web discussion forum?Seth Brundle1 Apr
  • Re: Could we make this a web discussion forum?Jeremy Zawodny31 Mar
  • Re: Could we make this a web discussion forum?gerald_clark31 Mar
  • Re: Could we make this a web discussion forum?Seth Brundle31 Mar
    • Re: Could we make this a web discussion forum?Dan Nelson31 Mar
    • Re: Could we make this a web discussion forum?B. van Ouwerkerk1 Apr
    • Re: Could we make this a web discussion forum?Jeremy Zawodny1 Apr
      • Re: Could we make this a web discussion forum?David T-G1 Apr
  • Re: Could we make this a web discussion forum?Seth Brundle1 Apr
  • Re: Could we make this a web discussion forum?Seth Brundle5 Apr
re[2]: Could we make this a web discussion forum?Richard Morton31 Mar
RE: Could we make this a web discussion forum?David Brodbeck31 Mar
  • Re: Could we make this a web discussion forum?Seth Brundle1 Apr
    • RE: Could we make this a web discussion forum?Jennifer Goodie1 Apr
  • Re: Could we make this a web discussion forum?Seth Brundle1 Apr
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