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From:SGreen Date:November 12 2005 6:47pm
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"Fabricio Mota" <fabricio.mota@stripped> wrote on 11/12/2005 09:46:07 AM:

> Hi Sanja,
> 
> My idea is to perform a distributed data system (DDS) to this engine. A 
DDS
> will be composed by at least one group. Each group may involve many 
MySQL
> servers, and each server may belong to more than one group.
> 
> So, the best way I've seen is to manage it into 3 system tables: 
DDE_SERVER,
> DDE_GROUP and DDE_SERVER_GROUP.
> For example: to subscribe a server into a group, I must: a) insert the
> server into DDE_SERVER table, if not exists; b) insert a relation 
between
> the new server and the existent group in DDE_SERVER_GROUP. So, all the 
group
> multicast communication will be proceeded to synchronize all servers.
> 
> Sanja, may I send the doc spec to you? (it's better shown in page 11).
> 
> Thank you again
> 
> Fabricio
> 
> -----Mensagem original-----
> De: Sanja Byelkin [mailto:sanja@stripped]
> Enviada em: sabado, 12 de novembro de 2005 07:09
> Para: Fabricio Mota
> Cc: internals@stripped
> Assunto: Re: RES: System Tables
> 
> 
> Hi, Fabricio!
> 
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2005 at 11:13:45PM -0300, Fabricio Mota wrote:
> > Ok, I'll study these codes.
> >
> > But I need to create 3 system tables in mysql database. These tables
> should
> > manage persistent data, and make specific actions (specific code 
routines)
> > when user try to insert, update or delete data into or from them. Do 
you
> > think these codes you adviced me could answer these (new) questions?
> 
> I am not sure that it is right decision to add something to mysql
> database. If you describe why you need that tables in mysql maybe I Will
> agree with you, but now I have bad strong feeling about adding
> something to mysql database.
> 
> To perform some actions on changing some special tables you have 2
> options:
> 1) use triggers.
> 2) prohibit access direct access to that tables and use special
> commands to update them (like CREATE/DROP PROCEDURE)
> 
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> 

The way the MySQL product is designed, everyhing specific to a method of 
managing tables is to be managed within that particular "engine".  If you 
need 3 tables to track who is in a group (etc) then your engine needs to 
keep up with that information internal to itself (and isolate the rest of 
MySQL from needing to ignore the activity of your engine.) 

Those tables in the mysql database are general to ALL of the database 
engines (MyISAM, InnoDB, BDB, Archive, Blackhole, etc) While those 
structures specific to certain engines (row-level locking and 
multi-versioning for InnoDB, data partitioning and two-phase commits for 
NDB, etc) are maintained within the engines themselves.

Does that make sense?

Shawn Green
Database Administrator
Unimin Corporation - Spruce Pine


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System TablesFabricio Mota11 Nov
  • Re: System TablesPeter M. Groen11 Nov
  • Re: System TablesSanja Byelkin11 Nov
    • RES: System TablesFabricio Mota12 Nov
      • Re: RES: System TablesSanja Byelkin12 Nov
        • RES: RES: System TablesFabricio Mota12 Nov
          • RES: RES: System TablesFabricio Mota12 Nov
          • Re: RES: RES: System TablesSanja Byelkin12 Nov
          • Re: RES: RES: System TablesSGreen12 Nov
            • RES: RES: RES: System TablesFabricio Mota13 Nov
              • Re: RES: RES: RES: System TablesSGreen13 Nov
                • RES: RES: RES: RES: System TablesFabricio Mota13 Nov
                  • Re: RES: RES: RES: RES: System TablesSanja Byelkin13 Nov
                    • RES: RES: RES: RES: RES: System TablesFabricio Mota13 Nov