From: Stéphane Croisier Date: February 26 2004 5:10pm Subject: Re: License Name? List-Archive: http://lists.mysql.com/community/18 Message-Id: <6.0.3.0.0.20040226175258.0502a0d8@mail.jahia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_33182859==.ALT" --=====================_33182859==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At 17:35 26/02/2004, Mahesh T. Pai wrote: > > internally a fail-over server with my own proprietary program with > > both servers runnning MySQL, is it considered as an "internal > > distribution" and then subject to the viral effect of the GPL?) > >This is a wrong assumption. the GNU GPL comes into play only when you >distribute to other persons. > >Ok. Before you (or somebody else) starts of with `distribution within >the organisation is distribution', please read GNU GPL, #3:- > >Comply with #3, and you have complied with the GPL. ;) I know #3 of the GPL ;-) But we are speaking of the interpretation of MySQL AB according to their=20 web site ( http://www.mysql.com/products/opensource-license.html ): "Free use for those who never copy, modify or distribute. As long as you=20 never distribute (internally or externally) the MySQL Software in any way,= =20 you are free to use it for powering your application, irrespective of=20 whether your application is under GPL license or not." And BTW #3 does not solve the issue I raise of making an "internal"=20 distribution within my organisation of a proprietary software on top of=20 MySQL (viral effect or not?). > > 2) Free Software means free like in free speech but also like in > > free beer. >`but also' is an error. >Free software means free like in free speech. Period. >You have the freedom to distribute it free of cost. But nobody compels >you to do so. If you distribute a binary, of course, you have to give >the source code too. But then, nobody compelled you to distribute the >binary. Did they?? OSI definition point 1: The license shall not restrict any party from selling or giving away the=20 software as a component of an aggregate software distribution containing=20 programs from several different sources. The license shall not require a=20 royalty or other fee for such sale. and: http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/selling.html So you can fix a price to your distribution. But this strategy is only=20 really valid once. For example, you can sell your software "distribution" 1= =20 million under GPL. IBM (for example) buys it once (with or without the=20 sources as they have then the right to freely access to them in all the=20 cases). IBM can then freely redistribute it as part of their own=20 distributions. No more sales for you. Period (and bankrupcy for you if you= =20 have no other revenue streams). So you have better to really well calculate= =20 your first sale price! If it was so easy to get license based revenue streams with an OSI license,= =20 I am sure a lot of software vendors would already make it. Do you know a=20 lot of them? ;-) Cheers St=E9phane --=====================_33182859==.ALT--